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>> big, big business. super pacs $358 million, $5.8 billion spent. there there's a lot of money floating around. >> that's right. but a brand new partisan economy. we're going to be looking at some of the new aspects. >> john's got special reporting on that all week. anderson cooper starts now. erin, thanks. good evening everyone, we begin tonight with breaking news on two fronts tonight. onlibya, what american diplomats may have been told about the threat from muslim extremists. terrorists three days before the attack that killed four americans in benghazi. we're going to have that but first, what could be a campaign blockbuster, when he didn't think cameras were rolling. the camera was rolling and here's a portion of the video. >> 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% with him who
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believe they are victims, who believe the government has the responsibility to care for them who believe they're entitled to health care, to food to housing, you name it. that's an entitlement. and the government should give it to them and they will vote for this president no matter what. and the president starts off with 48 49 starts off with a huge number. these are people who pay no income tax. >> we got these quotes from "mother jones" magazine. the romney campaign has not denied the substance of what's in the tapes. in the tape you hear mitt romney saying my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them. he also joked he'd have a better shot if his father, george romney, had been mexican. the question now, does the playing of this tape hurt or help his chances? ari flescher and on the phone cnn's jim acosta. paul you say this is potentially devastating blow for
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the romney campaign. why? >> well, because the democrats are trying to push two narratives. and these are the two narratives on romney we're trying to push. first, that he doesn't care about the middlehelp mitt. in the latest cnn polle this gaffe president obama had a 20-point lead over mitt romney in the question of who is more in touch with the concerns of the middle class. so it hurts there, hurts on the second front. there's a tax policy sudy that the democrats have been pushing president clinton referred to it in his convention speech in charlotte. and it says in order to give big tax cuts for the rich mitt romney's going to have to raise taxes on the middle class. well when you're claiming to wealthy people that 47% of americans don't pay federal income tax, i think a lot of those people, retirees, working class folks are going to listen to that and think gee i guess he does want to raise the taxes on the middle class in order to help the rich. this helps the democrats in two important ways.
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>> said that this tape could be potentially crippling. when you have a guy who wants to be president of all of the united states say 40% of the american people view themselves as victims and want handouts. what is that -- how bad is this. >> let's start with the 47% figure, which paul did not dispute. it was originally reported by the associated press. 40% of the country no longer pay any income taxes. >> do they view themselves as -- >> a lot of redistribution of income. well, that is a different question. i don't know the answer to that whether they consider themselves a victim or not. but what paul very cleverly did was define poverty upward. if we're a nation where 47% of the country is considered in poverty and should not pay any taxes, income taxes, boy, are we in big trouble. middle class people should be paying income taxes. and that's why it's a difference. the best way to hurt programs that help people who need it and who are low income is for these
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programs to grow like hushmushrooms so people start to say the system is rigged, we have so few people paying income taxes anymore, it's not fair to anybody and that's what undermines support for social programs that we do need in this country. so 47% is an accurate number and it's a very problematic number. because if you're not paying income taxes and getting benefits, you're getting government for free. >> do you not worry it sounds like mitt romney is dismissing 47% of the population as people he doesn't need to care about as people who want handouts, as people who view themselves as victims and are just sitting around? >> i think what mitt romney is saying, there's a better way. and the way is to more private sector initiatives and not government dependence. the democrats are offering government dependence, which we know grows over time tries to attract more people on to it, and that's why the social safety net has become a trap for too many. the other alternative is private sector growth to get the
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government to create an environment for private sector jobs to grow. the word victim i would not use that word. he's right on the 47%. to say they're victims, you know, they think of themselves as victims, some might, some might not. many people are there some people are there because of circumstances beyond their control. but the point remains that 47% of this country -- and that's a figure that was in the 30s when bush was president, it's grown dramatically since president obama came into office, do get government for free. that's a problem. >> paul? >> the last point is completely wrong. first of all, i salute ari he's embracing this it's not a gaffe. what mitt romney said is what republicans really believe. they're not getting government for free. they paid into the government. first off roughly half of the people -- >> i didn't interrupt you. roughly half of the people who are in that class are retirees they've already paid in, and we don't as a general rule for middle income and below, we don't tax their social security benefits, nor do democrats believe we should. others are working folks who are trying to bring themselves up
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out of poverty. this is the distinction. republicans think that retirees and middle class people and working class people and poor people should pay more in income taxes. i'll point out that millions of those people who pay no federal income tax pay payroll taxes which can top out for them get this, i checked this out at 15.3%, which is a higher percentage of their income going to washington than mitt romney himself pays on the $20 million of the one year of tax returns he released. this is the divide here. president obama's campaigning saying i want to cut taxes for the middle class and raise them on the romney class. and now governor romney and ari and other republicans are being candid and i salute them for that. they want to cut taxes on the rich and raise them on retirees and working people and poor people and that's the issue we should take to the voters. >> it's interesting. when then candidate obama was you know recorded talking to donors, talking about how there's people that are clinging to their gods and guns. that's something that congressman ryan is still using right now out on the campaign
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trail. do you see this tape though -- even from a public relations standpoint when you're trying to get as many voters as possible, is this a wise thing to have been recorded saying? >> well anderson, whether it was a wise thing to be recorded or not it doesn't change the economic facts and statistics before us about how this country has created a tax code for half the people in the country no longer pay. almost half, any income taxes at all. >> you're focusing on that one sentence -- >> because that's crucial. >> he's talking about victims -- his portrayal of 47% of the population as viewing themselves as victims. i think if i was one of those 47%, that might cause resentment. >> i already said to you i don't think that's a word i would have used. i already conceded that point. but back to the point that paul is making. you know, in obama care they define people who would be eligible to receive a government subsidy is people who make four times the poverty level for a family of four. that's in the $90,000 range. this is what happens if democrats keep creating these
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entitlements, these subsidies providing them increasingly upward in the income scale in the case of obama care to the $90,000 range and trying to hook people on government programs. this is a crucial divide in the country. >> when he says it's not his job to worry about them, do you think he's saying that because because -- >> did he say to worry about getting their vote? to worry about getting their vote or worry about them? >> i think he said to worry about them, but i assume he meant to get their vote because they're not going to vote for him. i don't have the words in front of me. >> i do think -- >> okay. to get their vote. >> i don't think he was saying he didn't care about those human beings, i think he was saying he doesn't think he can get their vote. >> let's play that part right here. >> i mean that's what they sell every four years. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. what i have to do is convince 5%
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to 10% in the center. the independents, that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon some cases of emotion, whether they like the guy or not. >> he was talking clearly about their votes. but what he's saying is i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility. so he's saying 47% of the country don't take personal responsibility. >> and that's what's so insulting, that shows that contempt he has. that sentence, i'll never convince them. they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. he's talking about people on social security. by the way he's leading among people over the age of 65. he's really wrong as a national leader. if you're on social security or medicare or earned veteran benefits or the g.i. bill, or a special needs child that needs medicaid, he says you're not taking personal responsibility. that is so offensive. and it does shine a light on the sort of arrogant elitism that clearly animates governor romney and his views toward fellow americans. >> i think that's an unfair lead to the conclusion. because he can also mean taking
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personal responsibility in the sense they don't have to pay any income taxes to support medicaid -- >> he's talking about them being dependent on government here ari. that's what he means medicare, medicaid, social security, veterans. >> not talking about the way people live their lives necessarily. whether you know it or i know it you'll take the worse interpretation of it and i'll take the better -- >> i just gave him the better interpretation in the previous sentence. >> if you don't pay any income taxes, you are taking no responsibility for the payments that go out from the government to support the income tax based programs such as medicaid and welfare and food stamps and alike. you don't have responsibility for the payments in to them. you're getting them for free. that's a crucial debate to have. because the more people that get dependent on government programs without paying, they do have a permanent constituency in a big government. >> i want to just for fairness read the statement that the romney campaign has released in the wake of the videos. it says mitt romney wants to help all americans struggling in the obama economy. he is concerned about the growing number of people who are
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dependent on the federal government. the number of people who are on food stamps, nearly one in six americans in poverty. mitt romney's plan creates 12 million new jobs in four years, grows the economy and moves the americans off government dependency and into jobs. jim acosta do they see this video as a problem? as a real problem? >> well, if they do, anderson, they're not saying that right now. i think the subject for the statement that you just read could be no apologies because mitt romney is not backing away from this statement he made in that fundraiser video. and as you see in the statement released by his campaign, he is basically saying that he believes the dependency on the federal government is a problem. the one thing you don't see in that statement he doesn't really talk about that other video that's causing some controversy that shows mitt romney saying he wishes he were elected -- that would help his political prospects. they said they did not respond to my e-mail. at the same time we should
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point out interesting to note that the romney campaign is saying that starting tomorrow they're going to allow reporters to bring video cameras into some of these fundraisers at private homes, but places like hotels and that sort of thing. no word as to whether or not this is a reaction to what these tapes have shown. but for the last several months ever since the primaries wrapped up anderson, this has been a problem for mitt romney. he has these unscripted moments that throw him off message. >> jim acosta, appreciate it, guys, appreciate it, as well. let us know what you think on facebook. let us know on twitter right now. let me know what you think about these tapes. does it make a difference? does it change anything? up next, we have more breaking news tonight. exclusive reporting from inside libya, from benghazi about a warning u.s. diplomats may have received just three days before those deadly attacks.
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killed four americans, including christopher stevens might have been -- excuse me, might not have been preventful, but it should have been foreseeable. our reporting seems to indicate that libyan officials believe that the threat was growing and they warned american diplomats about it. this is new video the commotion where friendly libyans discovered a badly wounded ambassador stevens in a room inside. there are frames not showing of the ambassador still apparently breathing being taken from the scene to the hospital. clearly it was a tragedy, but was it a foreseeable and therefore possibly preventable one? so far the government's line is that the benghazi murders were probably spontaneous and not premeditated reaction to the anti-muslim video on youtube. >> it's important to know there's an fbi investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. that will tell us with certaindy what transpired.
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but our current best assessment based on the information we have at present is, in fact, what this began as was a spontaneous, not a premeditated response to what had transpired in cairo. in cairo as you know a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated. >> that was susan rice yesterday morning. now, many have a hard time believing that, includeing lindsey graham. his colleague john mccain also believes the assault was pre-planned. >> why do you think they're calling it a spontaneous attack? >> i have no clue. the facts -- the facts are so clear that heavy weapons and rocket propelled grenades, in indirect fire and direct fire used could not be spontaneous. >> with that kind of pushback, the state department seems to be trying to soften ambassador
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rice's statement. listen. >> we've heard a number of different things from libya. i would simply say that what the comments that ambassador rice made accurately reflect our government's initial assessment. >> initial assessment. that was earlier today. this evening, we reached out again to the state department but we have yet to receive a reply. breaking news tonight, new reporting from libya that lays out precisely what americans there were told about potentially deadly threats and how they knew it. in a moment we'll talk to the former cia officer and fran townsend who was in libya, met with the ambassador and has fascinating information about what kind of security detail he had or lack thereof, which might indicate one of the reasons he was so vulnerable in benghazi. but first arwa damon broke the story. arwa you've been talking to eyewitnesss on the ground there. i understand one eyewitness heard an extremist talking about hitting a second location.
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is that true? what does that tell you? >> reporter: first of all we do know that a second location was attacked, that was supposed to be the safe house where embassy personnel were evacuated to. this other eyewitness a young man, arrived on the scene saying he saw at least two dozen bearded men, part of a known extremist militia here he said just on the outskirts, just outside the consulate compound. they briefly detained him because he said he did not share the same ideology. they heard him celebrating hit and talking about needing to get ready to go out and attack a second compound. all of this of course raising the question as to whether or not this was a pre-planned assault as some members, senior members of the libyan government are claiming or whether or not it was quite simply a demonstration that turned violent. >> arwa you're hearing that the u.s. should've known about this, that they were warned in
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advance? >> libyan officials are telling us that they were talking to the u.s. telling them, warning them about the growing extremist threat and flat out admitting that they could not control these extremist litias actually asking the americans for help in doing that. and i spoke to some military officials who say that just three days before the attacks took place, they had a meeting with senior employees from the consulate itself where they were talking about this rising threat against western interests. and again, highlighting the point that they themselves could not control these militias, these gangs that roam with pretty much pure impunity. and the ambassador himself was aware of the growing security threat, as well, anderson. >> and yet, his own security detail seemed very small, no? >> reporter: the front line of the compound if you will was libyan guards, but they don't have weapons, they only have
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walkee talkees. it most certainly is not the kind of security measures that one would imagine would be put in to place in a country where the u.s. is well aware in itself monitoring al qaeda affiliated extremist camps in the desert not too far from the city of benghazi itself. >> and let me be clear about it. you're saying that libyan officials had meetings with u.s. officials inside libya warning of potential threats? >> reporter: libyan officials in benghazi, military officials that are members of one of the more powerful brigades and battalions met with officials from the u.s. consulate in benghazi three days before the attack took place they're telling us. this was a meeting that was supposed to be centering around business and the economy. but they are saying that they told the americans, wait, we can't even be talking about the economy, about bringing western companies in to libya especially in to benghazi
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because this threat from extremist militias is growing. we at this point in time do not have the capabilities to be able to control them or to protect western interests. and they were asking as they have been for months anderson the americans for help in controlling these extremist elements because they know what the consequences are going to be if they become even more powerful than they already are. >> arwa damon, thanks. we've reached out to the state department for any kind of confirmation about what they may have been told or conversations they may have had with security officials three days prior to the attack. let's dig deeper now with two cnn contributors former cia officer bob bair who has a long history in the region. also fran townsend also a member of the cia's external advisory committee and last month was in libya with her employer. what do you make of what arwa
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was reporting based on what she was told by libyan officials on the ground? >> i think it's completely plausible that the compound had been attacked in june. the british ambassador had been attacked, icrc had been attacked twice. it was clear there's a running threat in libya. and, you know, frankly anderson this compound was underprotected in that sort of situation. i've served in places like this. and, you know, there was watchtowers, sandbags machine guns, and a safe room is really truly a safe roo. and if this was just a residential compound, it was underprotected. >> fran, what do you make of it? it sounds like if they were warned three days before that's pretty damning, no? >> it is anderson. and there's a couple of points to be made here. first of all, who did they speak to at the consulate? and what did those u.s. consulate employees do with that information? did they pass it on? did it get to the regional security officer who would have been in position to give additional resources d
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protection to both the compound and to the ambassador? second, anderson as you recall i was there in libya in tripoli august 28th and 29th. i had breakfast with ambassador stevens on august 28th and 29th and talked to him about my own observations about the increased presence of militias and the increased presence of the extremist presence in the east libya. i know that ambassador stevens was generally aware of those concerns the extremist presence in the east of libya, but the real question now, based on arwa arwa's report, was the information from the libyan officials in benghazi and their need for assistance passed on to ambassador stevens before he traveled there? >> fran, what was his security detail like? and i'm not sure you can comment on that. but i remember when i was going in the early days of iraq, he had a huge security detail with him, blackwater folks. did the ambassador have that? >> anderson it's funny you should ask me this what was
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striking to me and i commented to him when he arrived. he arrived in an armored car and obviously with a driver. i didn't -- his security did not come in to the hotel with him to meet me. he had no visible security presence when he met me in tripoli. . he walked in he was greeted by other libyans who clearly recognized him at the hotel and came up to him very warmly and thanked him for u.s. assistance. but he had no visible security presence with him when he walked in. >> bob baer does that surprise you? >> absolutely. there's no way that man should have been without security, without western security. there is no libyan security to provide it and he should've had it. there were so many attacks, so many threats hanging over libya. frankly, there's no excuse for it. >> people say, though about him, he was a guy that liked to roll up his sleeves out on the street and that's how he did effective work. >> you know, everybody wants -- he's good, he knows the middle
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east he did the same thing at damascus, and that's what the state department should be doing. the problem is the middle east is changing so fast that that way of behaving -- not the way of carrying yourself out in public, you just no longer is safe. >> fran, to your point, we haven't gotten confirmation from the state department about any meeting that was held three days before or to what degree or to whom any warnings were made. it's very possible these are now libyan officials telling arwa damon, who are now covering their tracks or saying in retrospect or, you know, kind of making more out of whatever warnings they gave. >> absolutely, anderson. and this should all come out. both senators collins and liberman have called for the state department i.g. to conduct an investigation, and we know the fbi is conducting an investigation. whether or not this is true, these individuals these libyan officials who claim to have passed this information will be interviewed and ought to be name the individuals they passed the information to so they too can be interviewed.
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but to bob's point, we absolutely need to understand now what was the security arrangement? what was the people on the ground including the ambassador there understanding of the threat? and what was done about it in advance? >> if there was supposed to be a second hit on a safe house does that to you indicate some sort of involvement of people who have inside the libyan government who have access to information? >> it certainly raises that question anderson. who knew that these people were coming? where the second location was, that there was a convoy on the way there. it certainly sounds from what we know now as though the extremists set up on that location and simply waited for them to arrive and surprised them, ambushed them if you will. >> bob is that second hit on that alleged safe house is that to you what's most troubling? >> it troubles me. those places aren't marked. there's a lot of foreigners living in benghazi, and how they knew it was a u.s. government
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affiliated safe house, they had to have some sort of inside intelligence. i don't see another way out of it. >> troubling. thanks. up next supreme court secrets. the legendary justice who said the republican party is destroying the country. jeff toobin reveals never before heard details in his new book "the oath." and later cnn's max foster talks to prince william about the controversy surrounding the photos taken of the duchess of cambridge kate middleton. they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. yr future. ♪ ♪
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up. a short word that's a tall order. r game. and if you stumble you get back up. we're in the business of up. while investing billionsimpr as we've been reporting throughout the campaign season the economy obviously is issue number one. the key element voters will weigh when deciding whether or not to give president obama four more years. what often gets lost in election year chatter though is the supreme court and how the vote in november is going to influence it the court. in his new book "the oath," jeffrey toobin argues there's an
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ideological battle between the president and john roberts. this is his first tv interview he's given on the book and we're thrilled about that. congratulations on the book. >> thank you. i am thrilled to be here and thrilled to have it done. >> you're passionate. >> it's been incredible. >> thank you. >> this relationship between president obama and john roberts is really fascinating. it got off to that kind of odd start with the oath that was administered where he sort of botched it. and we're going to put up on the screen for the script of the oath of office that the justice was supposed to administer. >> this is such a weird story. i always wondered why did they mess it up? why did it happen? and what happened was john roberts prepared this document. this document has never been seen in public before. and this is a document where he sketched out exactly how he was going to do the oath with the spaces indicated. and you can see, i barack obama do solemnly swear. his assistant sent it to a
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secretary in the joint inaugural committee, congress' committee. that secretary never opened it. >> hmm. >> never looked at it, never forwarded it to obama's office. so obama never saw this document before the inauguration day. so he didn't know how roberts was dividing the words. when you listen to it, as i have listened to it now 300 or 400 times, you see -- >> i barack obama do solemnly swear. >> that i will execute the office of -- >> see what there obama and roberts very of panicked and but the redidn't have that document and didn't know. a lot ofrtsple of blew practice. he practiced so much thatow, this point the dog thinks he's president. it wasn't a lack of it s. >> it's interesting because you write in the book that he was a skilled and powerful advocate for the republican agenda, roberts, and yet it was roberts who came to obama's rescue on the health care? >> well this was just an
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extraordinary thing. and cnn viewers who are smart people may well remember that i was quite wrong in my prediction of this. though, i don't want to pretend that i saw this coming. in retrospect as i was doing the reporting for the oath i saw that roberts saw real peril to the future of the court if bush v. gore 2000, citizens united 2010, health care two years later. if those three cases all were five republicans overruling the work of democrats, roberts really feared for the future of the court as an independent respected entity. so in part because he was obviously persuaded by this strange argument that said this as an respected body to, you know not be simply a partisan rubber stamp. >> there's also a fascinating story about sandra day o'connor saying when justice was
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retiring, it's my party that's destroying the country. >> the last three justices to leave the court, john paul stevens, all republican appointees who left deeply alienated from that party. and that scene in the supreme court corridors, the justices, they respect each other's space a lot. they don't go into each other's offices a lot but they have a lot of conversations in the corridors. >> it's like "60 minutes." >> it's a lot like "60 minutes." and o'connor went on and on to suter about how it was the republicans running up deficits and barry goldwater never cared who you slept with. and we didn't get involved in these foreign adventures, you know, under good republican presidents. o'connor, stevens, and suter a left completely alienated from the modern republican party and they were replaced by modern republicans who are much more congrd to talking more about it down the r lot mo tonight. isha? >> anrs nd teachers back to work today and end a six-day
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strike. instea union leaders say the mayor is using the schoolues such as teacherevaluations. in new york, rallies and nearly 150 arrests as protesters gathered to mark the one-year anniversary of occupy wall street. most of the violations were for disorderly conduct. and anderson, washington national zoo welcomes a baby panda. don't expect a name for months. zoo officials will follow chinese custom and give it a name after 100 days. i'm thinking hay. >> you're thinking >> hayes. >> middle name. i like >> i kne you. here at "360" we've follow an two years in a notorious nicaraguan prison. he is finally aonightup.
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crime and punishment tonight, the case of jason puracal. finally he's a free man. in a moment we're going to talk to him about his life his freedom and life behind bars.we've been following his case closely here on the program order to shed light on a
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terrible miscarriage of justice. a young american native of washington state who lived with his wife and child in nicaragua. he was convicted nicaragua's notorious prison. what mystified everybody about the case was there was no evidence to support the charges against him. puracal is now free. he won't soon forget the nightmares he lived th in world, and an innocent american named jason puracal spent twore two years of 22-year sentence for a crime he did not commit.this has been like for you. >> it's hard to find the words. hard. >> puracal grew up in washington state. wanted to be a veterinarian. after graduating for the university of washington, he joined the peace corps hoping to work with exotic animals around the world. in 2002, he was stationed in nicaragua. after his two years in the peace corps, he met and fell in love with scarlet. he later married and moved to the popular beach town they have a son named began working as a real estate agent and eventually
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life was good. he was raising his son in a community he said he loved and finding success with his company. but everything changed on november 11th 2010. on that afternoon, according to family, nicaraguan police burst into his home and office, confiscated his files and tooks a front for an international drug trafficking ring. he was arrested other suspected drug big mistake. >> there's absolutely no evidence that jason committed any of the crimes with which he was charged. i am an attorney, and i've read through the entire case file. but more than that, i'm jason's sister. and i know my brother. i know that he's absolutely 100% innocent. >> puracal was hopeful that this would be resolved quickly. his lawyers say the nicaraguan authorities weren't able to provide any evidence linking hi drug trafficking ring. noring. in june. he'd been in prison for more than 18 monthshi h in the harsh conditions of the prison. do you have the
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authorit nicaragua i ea you?y evidence they actually presented.ow thei'm here. that's been a the the prosecution have been. ca authorit appeal.100% innocent of see myn.t t. nowherether he was finally courts once again. i judicial system in nicaragua will let me go free and find the truth. >> last wednes hearing nicaraguan court ordered puracal's immediate release. the charges were annulled. finally reuniting wi >> hello! hello!iving nightmare behind him. jasonn't ely. there were days where it was a very negative environment that so an luckily the d friends and fa kinds of strangers. >> we're ry. reun it'selming
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joy. it's the o a relief to my son in my and kisses all around. it's still very, very surreal. the whole expeunbelievable. >> janis, for you, what's it been like? a lot of folks say he wouldn't be out now if it wasn't for all r effort. >> we had a team of incredible people that some of them knew jason and some of them didn't, and they fought loyally for him for two years. my world has been we have exhausted every resource that we have.ay with nowi would go back and do it all again from the start. there are gangs, there are killers in there. i was with rapists and murderers and actual drug dealers and it's a very violent place. there's a lot of tension between different groupsthere. and not only the conditions but the other people around guree in prison? >> day by day minute by minute,
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it's the fight for your life every second of the day. >> do you feel free?first things i did when it out was a hot shower showers i>>n the hot think about sent to pr dedicated your life aragua. i still believe in its i still love the people wrongful convictions in olateragua. world follow your case closely. and you know, thought ab for you and wanted to . following you? to say thank you first and or utt her, i wouldn't be >> -- and through the websites for that, again, that even know that freedom. and so i just want ty thk n get to meet of them, yourself, anderson i.coverage that you gave me, international coverage definitely stepped uppressure. i'm glad you're battle over topless photos ofddleton.ench italian ma published the photos. max foster spoke with kate and william today. what they have to say about the scandal next.
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well prince touring the and ba topless ph worse.published photos o kate middleton sunbathing has a f cnn international max spoke duke and duchess today. whes impression, really, of upset andated by these pictures. and he feels angry. parazzi in particular ri's wor now, his wife trying there. what is ercewaable of a debate around whether or not they could run his completely invasionerms o and in theia mchzi french magaz that yfit put picturest know pages. it seems gratuithere. iled criminal complaints withrench ns, wh france. that's one thing.also the fnch they're trying in they won't be ableot, they want the couigitalell some an which published them over the pendede bat paper, they're h not plann any legal in otheit. what they're really doing w
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